zibacco ([info]zibacco) wrote,
@ 2008-06-26 09:40:00
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My cold dead hands and all that
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Ignoring precedent and the generally held opinions of Constitutional scholars, the Supreme Court has reinterpreted the Second Amendment to provide an individual instead of a collective right to bear arms. Not that you'll hear the psycho right freaking out about "activist judges" on this one, but it is a pretty radical departure from precedent.

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I own a couple of guns which I threaten to shoot people with on a regular basis, so I have mixed feelings on this one. I mean, it would be so much harder to get through traffic and long lines at the supermarket if I couldn't wave my .357 at people who get in my way.  So I'm glad that my right to do that will be protected.  On the other hand, I'm not sure what this means for sensible gun control, like restricting private ownership of machine guns and surface-to-air missiles.  Because unless you believe people should be able to privately own nuclear weapons, you believe in gun control in some form. The argument really becomes an issue of to what degree weapon ownership should be regulated.  Do you need a howitzer to defend your home and hunt deer?  Or would a nice rifle suffice?



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[info]noble_zone
2008-06-26 11:52 pm UTC (link)
This is one of the worst decisions the Supreme Court has ever made in their existence.

Awful, awful, awful.

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[info]zibacco
2008-06-27 12:24 am UTC (link)
The triumph of the ideaologues. They've been at it since Reagan, meanwhile what passes for the left continues to dissappear up its own ass. It was inevitable.

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(Anonymous)
2008-06-27 11:28 am UTC (link)
I'm curious. Are there any statistics available that suggest that stricter gun laws reduce armed violence? My point is; did the laws in DC reduce the crime rate...in any significant way?

Banning guns all together infringes, but sealing a tighter privilage to those who "can" own them would be a much better avenue.

These restrictions should obviously include:

-race
-sexual pref.
-income bracket
-gender

C:)

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[info]zibacco
2008-06-27 03:48 pm UTC (link)
Some animals are better armed than others, huh? ;)

As for you question, I don't know the statistics, but I do know that in radio interviews this morning the police chiefs of LA and Chicago said that gun crime with assault rifles had increased since the ban expired.

I'm not a fan of a total ban at all, but when the Founders wrote the 2nd Amendment you were dealing with single shot muskets that took time and effort to reload. They were so innefficient that during the Revolutionary war, some of the Revolutionary leaders seriously considered having the troops use bows and arrows. The only reason they didn't was the political ramifications of looking primitive to the British and the French. Given the capabilities of modern weapons, I think reasonable regulation is a good idea.

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(Anonymous)
2008-06-27 11:49 pm UTC (link)
Actually, in light of both Lockyear and Emerson, this ruling was way overdue, and it was a very reasonable one at that.

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[info]zibacco
2008-06-28 06:31 am UTC (link)
I don't argue about the unreasonableness of the DC law that was struck down. I think the Founders intended to provide a right to own firearms, and the DC law went to far in restricting that right. What I'm concerned about is the possibility that reasonable, sensible restrictions on the right to bear arms will be thrown away entirely. This is a departure from established law, and I'm hoping we find a rational middle ground. I've got free speach, but I can't incite riots, yell "fire" in a theater or advocate the violent overthrow of the government. Rights come with responsibities, in the form of reasonable limits on those rights.

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(Anonymous)
2008-06-28 01:31 pm UTC (link)
Don't worry, bro:

"We therefore read Miller to say only that the Second Amendment does not protect those weapons not typically possessed by law-abiding citizens for lawful purposes, such as short-barreled shotguns. That accords with the historical understanding of the scope of the right..."

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